News Starcraft 2: PTR Patchnotes 1.3.3

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Auf der amerikanischen Battle.net Seite wurden die PTR Patchnotes 1.3.3 veröffentlicht. Hierbei handelt es sich um Änderungen auf den öffentlichen Testrealms. Neben kleineren Veränderungen wie der Reduzierung des Pylon Radius, wurde auch die Zeit für die Erforschung des Warp Gate Upgates von 140 auf 180 Sekunden erhöht. Damit wird vor allem der 4-Gate Rush im Early Game generft.

Alle Terranspieler dürften sich über die Gasreduzierung für Ghosts freuen. Ganze 50 Gas weniger machen Ghosts nun auch im Early Game bezahlbar. Aber auch kleinere Bugs werden mit Patch 1.3.3 behoben.

PTR Patchnotes 1.3.3

Balance


* PROTOSS
* Archons are now a massive unit.
* Pylon power radius has been decreased from 7.5 to 6.5.

* Cybernetics Core
* Research Warp Gate time increased from 140 to 180.

* Gateway
* Sentry train time decreased from 42 to 37.
* Stalker train time decreased from 42 to 37.
* Zealot train time decreased from 38 to 33.
* Warp Gate unit train times remain unchanged.


* TERRAN

* Ghost
* Cost changed from 150/150 to 200/100.
* Salvage resource return reduced from 100% to 75%.

* ZERG

* Spore Crawler
* Root time decreased from 12 to 6.


Bug Fixes


* Fixed a bug where Ghosts could not quickly EMP the same location.
* Fixed a bug where players were still able to stack flying units on top of each other.

Wir haben den deutschen Zergspeiler XLord zu den Patchnotes befragt, welcher uns folgendes Statement dazu gab:

"Der kommende Patch wird einige Sachen verändern die schon längst hätten geschen müssen, ich bin sehr erfreut das Blizzard so gut auf uns alle hört und auch selber mal hinsieht. Das einzige was ich bemängel sind die niedrigeren Gas Kosten für Ghosts. Dadurch werden sie noch stärker was nicht unbedingt sein sollte. Die root time der spore crawler zu senken war schon überfällig, nun kann man sich endlich gegen 2 ports Banshees verteidigen. Auch das 4 gate der Protoss wurde auch generfed was auf jedenfall das PvP stark verändern wird aber auch alle anderen match ups der Protoss. Es wird auf viel mehrere Makro lastige Spiele hinauslaufen, was ich sehr begrüße."

quelle: http://www.mystarcraft.de/de/news/1569-ptr-patchnotes-1-3-3/
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Naja, mal sehen wie man jetzt nen 7rr push aufhält... bin mal gespannt.
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ur65srusru

* Salvage resource return reduced from 100% to 75%.
= Kann mir das einer erklären was das heißt? Beim abreissen eines bunkers nichtmehr 100% zurück bekommen sondern nur 75%? versteh ich das richtig?

* ZERG

* Spore Crawler
* Root time decreased from 12 to 6.
= root time????
bedeutet das jetz das der spore 50% schneller gebaut is oder wie?
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Ich schätze damit ist die Zeit gemeint, die es braucht sich nach dem Ausgraben sich wieder einzugraben.
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ur65srusru

also das warpgateresearch generft, naja..
die vielen 4gates gingen mir auch auf den sack, aber mal sehen was da in der praxis passiert, wenn mehr ecolastige games draus werden im PVP krieg ich das kotzen weil's eh immer im colossirausch oder deathball endet...

das 50 gas weniger für den ghost find ich jetz auch nicht so geil..
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Das würde mehr sinn ergeben! aber sollte dies dann nicht auch gleichzeitig für den spine crawler gelten?
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Das war mal beim SPine so, aber das macht den Cheese im zvz zu stark.

Und ich sags mal so, den Warpgate tech nerf wird so so auswirken, dass es viel mehr proxy gates wieder gibt, die die jetzt nur 4gate in jedem mu gespielt haben werden halt nur proxy gates spielen weil jede Einheit 5 sek weniger Zeit braucht.

Ich finde es in Ordnung, nur bissi blöd nachdem ich mir das 4gate angeeignet hab wirds gleich generft^^. Naja kann mal schauen wollte sowieso meine Taktik Grundelegend ändern im pvp.

Der Archon buff ist ziemlich geil gegen Bio Terra, mal schauen wies wird.
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ur65srusru

mir fällt grad ein, wenn archons massiv sind, dann laufen die ja jetz auch FF kaputt ^^
aber man bedenke: early ghost dann kannst deine base nicht Forcefielden :/

ich glaub echt das PvT jetzt richtig hart wird, nur gut das der emp kein schild mehr abzieht, sonst könnte man auch die archons vergessen..

und mit den offgates haste recht..

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Das Archon ff kaputt laufen ist eigentlich relativ wayne.

Nur dass sie dann halt nicht mehr von der Schockmoni geslowd werden ist ziemlich derbe.

Theoretisch müssten Archone die +bio attack haben ne mmm Armee zerreissen.
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ur65srusru

Richtig, mir fällt grad auf das das im PvP so ziemlich das nutzloseste ist was man machen kann ^^



Jop!


Theoretisch = ja, mal sehen wie das dann aussieht, würd echt gern sehen wie so 3 archons auf ne bioarmee laufen was dann passiert..
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das wär nice ^^
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Also warpgate time macht erst mal sinn, weil ja echt nur noch 4 gate gespielt wir.
Das mit der root time, mag auch sinn machen!
Aber was soll denn bitte Ghost buff und pylon radius nerf?? kleinerer energieradius für pylonen? wie mega behindert ist das denn? ich weiß so schon nichht wo ich meine gebäude hinpflanzen soll!
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@Curare den Ghost buff verstehe ich auch nicht...

Den Pylon nerf kann man vieleicht so erklären, dass man nicht mehr die Rampe hoch warpen kann.

Aber eigentlich auch ne dumme änderung.


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ur65srusru

Das mit dem Pylonradius find ich jetzt nicht so schlimm.

Mit den Gates find ich gut -> Cheesy Hope / Ne eigentlich gehts mir auch aufn Sack, das fast nur noch 4 Gate gezockt wurde/wird...

Ich find wir sollten erstmal abwarten, wie es sich denn wirklich auswirkt.

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wer nen proxypylon nich findet der in die base warpen kann is eig selber schuld, ich finds auch kacke :C
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Es geht nicht um ein Proxy Pylon in der Base, sondern an der Rampe draussen, damit wenn im PvP der Offensive Protoss sicht auf der Plattform hat gleich 4 Units reinwarpen kann, die dann gegebenenfalls die Sentrys killen.
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ur65srusru

ach leute... einfach z choosen und 8 pool, dann hat sich das erledigt
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genau DAS meinte ich mit:
wer nen proxypylon nich findet der in die base warpen kann is eig selber schuld
Der proxypylon is of course vom offensive P ^^
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Achso, tja guteeeeeee

Aber so ein Pylon wird meistens erst gesetzt wenn beide Protoss Spieler ne bachtliche Armee haben.

Dann so nen oder soga mehrere Pylonen zu focusen würde deiner Armee einen verherenden Nachteil einbringen da die Gegnerische toss Armee solange deine beschiesen kann.
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ur65srusru

???

nicht wenn die pylons grade "gebaut werden und eh noch nichts gewarped werden kann.

und auch nicht dann wenn er die choke mit nem FF geblockt hat.
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Diese Pylonen die an der Choke sind, kommen meistens erst nach dem 1.-2. Proxy Pylon die weiter weg stehen, diese Pylonen sind ja auch nur für den Fall Sentrys.
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ur65srusru

O_o

was verstehst du unter proxypylon ^^
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Pylonen die nah an der Gegnerischen base sind ?

aber nicht AN der gegnerischen plattform!
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ur65srusru

illy... wir müssen dieso woche noch 1v1 machen, dann zeig ich dir wie gob es meint scheint ja bei dir auf zu gehen
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was müsste bei mir aufgehen?

wenn ich selbst offensive spiele bringts das sowieso net [ modified by Illynore @ 27.04.2011 18:55 ]
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ur65srusru

Ich verstehe Illy und habe eher das Gefühl, dass Gob da Verständnisprobleme hat!
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das is n proxypylon für mich also n warp-in pylon

"vereinfachte darstellung" ^^

wers nich auf anhieb erkennen kann, STRG + drücken
oder rechtsklick aufs bild und extern nochma im brwoser anzeigen lassen in vollbild [

Die obere base wäre mein Gegner, und ich würde von unten mit meinem proxypylon "reinwarpen" [ modified by T4E-GreenGoblin @ 28.04.2011 12:56 ]
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Das ist richtig.
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ur65srusru

und warum haben wir uns dann nicht verstanden? ^^
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Weil ich glaube du gesagt hast das dieser Pylon zuerst Gebaut wird, was garnicht aufgehen kann da der erste Bersi/Stalker den Pylon töten würden bevor dein Berserker/Stalker ankommen würden, die ersten Proxy Pylon/Pylonen baut man immer bissi abseits versteckt.
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ur65srusru

Aber eine sehr schöne Darstellung der tatsachen.
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ich würd gern mal einen bersi/stalker sehen!
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Bitte den spam in den Vorgesehen Thread.

Danke.
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ur65srusru

WIUUUUUUWIUWIUWIUWIUUUUUU [ modified by T4E-GreenGoblin @ 28.04.2011 13:59 ]
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Aber mal ne frage back to topic... hat sich das mit dem reinwarpen nicht sowieso dann erledigt wenn das warpfeld verkleinert wird? Das würde ja bedeuten das man seinen off-Pylon noch näher an die gegnerische base setzen müsste... Somit ein frühes nicht erkennen des Pyl schon ausgeschlossen ist! Okay, jetzt kommt wieder, man baut diesen ja ehh erst kurz vorm reinwarpen... aber wenn er so nah an der base ist habe ich ihn schon kaputt bevor man anfangen kann zu warpen??!!
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die sichtweite war wohl einfach kleiner als die range zum warpen. und andersrum, sichtweite erweitern, ist unfair?
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Ich glaube darum ging es ja gerade in diesem Nerf.
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ur65srusru

es geht ja nicht um die sichtweite, sondern um den radius.
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um den power radius!
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ur65srusru

update pls, gibt neuere patch notes.
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ur65srusru

Poste die doch einfach im Newsforum -> Starcraft 2 News ... Damit kommt der Spaß direkt in die News ;)
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mit spaß meinst du spam oder?
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Nein!
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NOPE!!!
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NIEMALS!
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Hat denn jetzt einer die aktuellsten patchnotes??? O_o
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pdated 05/03, 6:00 PM PDT

General

* The default hotkey to toggle in-game music on/off has been reverted to its hotkey prior to Patch 1.3.0. The hotkey to display APM in the observer stat panel has been changed as a result.



Balance

* PROTOSS

o Archon

+ Now a Massive unit.

+ Range increased from 2 to 3.

o Cybernetics Core

+ Research Warp Gate time increased from 140 to 160.

o Gateway

+ Sentry train time decreased from 42 to 37.

+ Warp Gate unit train times remain unchanged.

o Pylon power radius has been decreased from 7.5 to 6.5.


* TERRAN

o Bunker

+ Salvage resource return reduced from 100% to 75%.

o Ghost

+ Cost changed from 150/150 to 200/100.

o Thor

+ Thor now has 200 max energy, and starts with 50 energy.

+ 250mm Strike Cannons now cost 150 energy to use (cooldown removed).


* ZERG

o Infestor

+ Speed decreased from 2.5 to 2.25.

o Spore Crawler

+ Root time decreased from 12 to 6.



Bug Fixes

* Fixed an issue where Ghosts could not quickly EMP the same location.

* Fixed an issue that allowed players to stack air units when issuing a queued stop command before the units reached the end of their patrol point.

* Fixed an issue where unplugging your USB headset while another player was talking to you could cause a crash.

* Fixed an issue where the APM statistic could be artificially increased.

* Fixed an issue where 3D unit portraits were not animating smoothly at slow game speeds.

* Fixed an issue where, when viewing a replay, no text message was displayed when a player left a game.

* The Taiwanese hotkey to display/hide the game UI while in Observer mode now works correctly.
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ur65srusru

Scheisse ... doch keine Fast Zealot Rushes...
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JAAAAAAAA!!!


+ Thor now has 200 max energy, and starts with 50 energy.
HTs sind nicht mehr völlig nutzlos ^^

ach und auf den fix habe ich natürlich auch schon sehr lange gewartet ^^
* The Taiwanese hotkey to display/hide the game UI while in Observer mode now works correctly. [ modified by T4E-GreenGoblin @ 05.05.2011 13:04 ]
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der templer tech wird immer interesanter, vorallem da Archone noch ne Reichweite bekommen haben.
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ur65srusru

jupp, wobei die gegen thor's immernoch bissl abstinken ^^
ich mein wenn der thor bei dir ist hat er evtl 70 energy.

bei 400 hitpoints is das nicht viel..

aber muss man mal sehen wie das in der praxis aussieht ;)
No changes bei den zealots, seh ich das richtig?!
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jo,

wer sagt dass archone gegen thore ran müssen?
reicht mir wenn sie mmm+ghosts killen, wenn die ghosts anfangen ihre emps zu wasten für das schild der archone und dann ein storm nachm anderen kommt
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ur65srusru

Son Archonball ist bestimmt was geiles... Wann wird der Patch aufgespielt ?
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is der nich schon?
also ka, aber ich hab gestern gezockt da hieß es server wird runtergefahren, da dacht ich mir okay, new patch is coming, war aber seitdem nimmer online
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die sind vorerst nur auf den testservern da, können sich noch ändern.
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ur65srusru

t4e-test spielt auf den testservern. fragt doch den mal .
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